VCs Drive Beaters, Too

Paul R. Brown @ 2008-01-16T20:30:41Z

Back in 2003 or 2004, when FiveSight was thinking about raising VC money, I had an informal lunch meeting with a Chicago-area venture capitalist (pretty sure it was Znex Xbhytrbetr) somewhere in either the Gold Coast or Old Town neighborhoods in Chicago. I honestly don't remember much of the content of the conversation other than that an elevator pitch for a middleware company launching a new product effort neither got him excited nor appeared to spoil his lunch. We finished up and walked out together.

I was driving the same beater that I drove up until the birth of our first child in 2005, a 1991 Acura Integra that I'd bought used when I finished grad school. Along the same lines as the plant in the lobby, I didn't want to take a chance on sending the wrong message to a potential investor, so I was hoping that we weren't parked where he'd walk by my car on the way to his. I was happy when we got to the door and he dispatched the valet fetched his car, and then I was surprised when the valet pulled up in an even older beater than mine. (A rusty and rusty-colored VW Fox, I think.)

And then he bummed $10 off me to pay the valet because he wasn't carrying any cash...

(comment bubbles) 0 comments

Analyst Predictions, Pricing, and Open Source

Paul Brown @ 2006-11-02T21:25:48Z

Dave Rosenberg, the CEO of the recently funded MuleSource, wrote an op-ed for Sandhill.com about wrapping a business around the Mule project. (And, of course, way to go Ross! Another great project incubated at the Codehaus.) Two of Dave's comments struck a chord with me, since I'd gone over the same ground many times over the six years I spent on FiveSight.

On market sizing:

Market data is fairly easy to find. Analyst firms such as Gartner and IDC frequently publish data that provide a base for your research. In our case we looked at the broadest market opportunity for our product over the next five years. We were able to determine that the aggregate market was $8.5 billion.

Of course, looking at their track records in terms of correct predictions, you realize that folks like Gartner, Forrester, and IDC are usually wrong, and most VCs, being smart folks, know this, too. Moreover, injecting change into a market will change the size and dynamics of the market, and exerting pressure on incumbents will cause them to change their tactics. As an example, one of the things that we ran into was "red" (Oracle) or "blue" (IBM) companies where all-you-can-eat licensing combined with single-sourcing initiatives made selling into those companies impossible, and trying to back those numbers out of broad predictions was pretty much impossible without gathering new data. Selection, adoption, and installation cycles further complicate making naive estimates, and this especially true if your revenue is concentrated in one phase of the customer lifecycle (e.g., up front with training or in back with production support). Nonetheless, the market size slide with at least a $1B market is part of the obligatory small talk that's part of any funding pitch; I just have trouble doing it with a straight face.

On the other hand, you can attack the sizing challenge from the bottom up, and Dave hints at that — the community around the project is all of the data you need. What's the composition of your community? At what rate and under what conditions are community participants converted to customers? What products are people asking for? Part of the beauty and magic of open source is that your customers come to you, and preserving the polarity of that relationship is important. The community activity is really the first stage in the sales funnel for an open source customer, and you can choose the levers that you want to pull (evangelism, training, partnering) to alter the rate and composition of the flow. My preference would be to use this approach combined with rough market segment sizes (number of servers, etc.) to build projections. In FiveSight's case (BPEL execution component), the data told us that our product offering didn't have the breadth (e.g., full BPM platform, full ESB, full integration product) to appeal to a large market but that we could build a profitable OEM-oriented business, and that's the direction that led us to an (intended and expected) exit via acquisition.

On pricing:

Pricing remains one of the great mysteries of any business. Open source companies tend to look at the cost of their nearest competitor and price their offering at some percentage discount.

From my perspective, open source is a method of packaging and delivery of software, which if you're not selling the software, is irrelevant to pricing. Services, support, training, and access to information have the same value as they do for "proprietary" vendors, and the fine line for the open source vendor to walk is in charging for access to information while reinforcing and nurturing the community.

(comment bubbles) 0 comments

Enjoying (Temporary) Retirement

Paul Brown @ 2006-05-03T21:18:00Z

I left my position at Amazon at the end of March, and after pretty much not taking a break for almost seven years, I've been enjoying some time off. (I'm serious about not taking a break — for example, I was hitting Internet cafes during our honeymoon in Italy to check the status of FiveSight's Series A negotiations and read drafts of agreements.)

The odd thing is, like people who are genuinely retired, I find my time filled anyway, albeit with reconnecting with people I haven't talked to recently, checking out the local parks, tinkering with software, or grabbing breakfast at a sidewalk bakery/cafe while the kid runs around. (FWIW, I've decided that referring to my daughter by name in my blog either is or should be irrelevant to my readers who aren't otherwise friends in the real world.) It's entirely pleasant.

Nonetheless, I think that 60 days of this is about all I can stand, so my “v.next” kicks off in June.

(comment bubbles) 0 comments

Intalio Acquires FiveSight

Paul Brown @ 2005-12-08T07:02:00Z

On December 6, Intalio announced that it acquired FiveSight, the company that I founded in 1999 and then led through six years of ups and downs.

SteveShu has a few comments on the FiveSight experience. (Steve has always been too humble for his own good; he was a vital member of the team from the moment he joined and played a key role in every win that the company had, including our relationship with Union Pacific and our distribution partner in Japan.) I can still remember Steve's first day on November 6, 2000. He showed up at my apartment in Chicago, and we went over FiveSight's "books" (an Excel sheet) at the kitchen table. That was just before FiveSight kicked-off in earnest with the original crew of six in a big loft in downtown Chicago, complete with a coffee maker, a pool table, and a fish tank.

Looking back, I like to think of FiveSight like a piece of software. We had a pretty good v1.0 release with a good product and some great customers, all driven by the moxie to turn minimal funding and maximal ambition into a going concern. FiveSight v1.0 won awards for rapid growth (426% for 2002, not half bad...) from Deloitte & Touche and the Chicago Software Association. We hit growing pains in 2003, trying to get over the $3M/year revenue hump against an increasingly competitive Java EAI market and the IT spending doldrums that followed the bubble burst and the 9/11 attack.

PXE was FiveSight's v2.0 business. We took stock in the middle of 2003, ramped-down FiveSight v1.0, and decided to bet on BPEL as a standard that would decouple design and protocols from execution. The first version of the BPM component for our previous platform morphed into Maciej's elegant design for the PXE execution core, and we were off to the races with an OEM-focused strategy that emphasized our strengths in low-level Java and high-level, targeted sales focused on the build/buy proposition. (I picked Sleepycat (for their OEM business) and Zope (for their community) as businesses to emulate, but I also started with the assumption that the market for BPEL execution and the overall market context would be completely different — FiveSight v2.0 would have to find its own way.) Open source was part of the thinking from the beginning but not part of the public strategy until June of 2005, when we posted PXE as open source to accompany SUN's tooling demo at JavaOne.

I'll be watching Intalio's progress from my seat on the sidelines, but more on that later.

(comment bubbles) 2 comments

JavaOne and the BPEL Elevator Pitch

Paul Brown @ 2004-07-02T01:00:00Z

We had good traffic at the FiveSight booth in the JavaOne pavilion, and that meant that several hundred people got to hear FiveSight's elevator pitch for BPEL as the programming model for SOA and as a tool for application developers. Here's a picture from when it was quiet enough for me to step away for a few minutes:

(Sorry — we're completely out of hats; I didn't even get one...)

On this subject, I'd like to cite JJ Dubray's "elevator pitch" for BPEL:

BPEL is a programming language or a set of extensions to existing programming languages that let you write programs and systems that can participate in message driven, asynchronous, long running units of work. This type of code is typically very hard to write or debug, in particular the dehydration/hydration of state, error prone, and difficult to monitor. Now that we live in a connected world, this type of code has become very common if not the norm. As such, BPEL is the programming language of SOA, it has brought consistency, order and elegance in a world of chaos. Today, BPEL can complement existing application models (e.g. J2EE) or be used for EAI applications, for web service compositions and in the near future it will become a key technology of BPM along with choreography languages.

This was inspired by my post from 2004-06-18, and while it's still not simple and direct enough to convince my mom that BPEL is going to be something big, the resonance with technologists and developers on the pavilion floor was unmistakable.

(comment bubbles) 0 comments

FiveSight in the Eye of the Beholder

Paul Brown @ 2003-11-23T09:00:00Z

I'm playing the role of entrepreneur for a group of business school students studying how executives build and maintain personal networks, and I liked the way that the interviewer described our offices:

Fivesight is located in an unassuming loft space in Chicago's West Loop area. It is a large office space, with a very informal, comfortable décor. [...] Every available space seemed filled with computers, laptops, books and software paraphernalia of every imaginable kind. The layout seemed very informal, no individual offices, equal access to company resources.

And there's all the Peet's you can drink. Sounds like my kind of place.

(comment bubbles) 0 comments